No we did not. We noticed their Instagram was closed, Facebook closed, website went back to “coming soon” and physical location closed. We’ll reach out for a follow up. For sure. But if we reached out yesterday, it usually takes a few days for people to craft a response. Then the story gets posted late, and it’s no longer “news”. There are times when reaching out and waiting for response is more warranted than others. We didn’t feel this was one of them with all the pieces that were in place. News is research, and news is time sensitive. Some times you can’t have both.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think obtaining more information and quotes from sources, fact-checking that information, and reporting the truth is what makes it news or journalism. If you had to post more information next week about what happened, had quotes from the owners about the situation and it was accurate, detailed, and has more information than what's on currently on reddit, that's still news, and I think it's way more valuable to readers of a community. For example, I would love to know Cody's response to criticisms (to put it lightly) of the food, if the increased parking helped, if it will it be a coffee shop again, any response to the what's said about the Brooklyn location that are still online, why the pivot to Mexican at all, are there other plans for the space, what's going on the with the Eugene location of Bohdi. I would think speed would have nothing to do with it unless you had a deadline for a printer or regular edition.
How do feel about Bandit as “news” ?? The article got 6,000+ reads and he got adopted in less than 24 hours. We did reach out to the owner on that one, he did respond promptly, the story got posted fast, we did source that from social media, and covered the adoption fee. Adaptation to the changing media landscape. Adoption to Bandit. That’s news.
So you only get responses about 40% of the time. If they don’t respond then what? You post late anyways without the additional information, or you don’t post at all. Sometimes posting to inform is the lessor of two evils. Not all of the time though, admittedly. The writer of this article worked in photo journalism news for 18 years. That news is newswire sensitive. If your shooting a story with other photographers, you have to download your card, make a select from hundreds of images, photoshop, caption (aka write the story), and have the images FTP’d out globally… all with in a few minutes after shooting. Magazines then ran the story. Within the hour. Getting your story out 30 seconds to a minute later than the other journalist… you would lose most of the coverage and readership. The definition of “news” is timely information. Speed isn’t always key, especially on exclusives, but most of the time it is. Reddit, Instagram, Facebook are excellent sources of news. In fact you could start your own news website very easily and cheaply with the new platforms that exist now. Corvallis needs more sources of news. Medium, Substack, are great places to start. The media landscape is changing fast. A lot of newspapers in Oregon closed this year, ones that have been around for decades. Now we have a smaller cross section of news to get information from. This is bad for readers. We have to embrace the changes or die with the past. Change with the times, and continue to give people choices for the news.
Thank you for the response. I am glad that the cat got adopted. I disagree that Facebook, Reddit and Instagram, even Medium or Substack are inherently sources of "news". They are platforms where anyone can post anything at all. They can be sources of information, certainly, but I think information needs to be at the very least vetted or fact-checked to be considered or published as "news". Simply repeating or reporting things posted as fact because it appeared on social media is irresponsible, in my opinion, and equates to gossip, not "news". To be clear, I am not saying the above article did this, but you defined these platforms are news sources, which I think is entirely inaccurate. Back to my original point, I just think it's good journalistic practice to try to reach out to a source you are writing about if you have the resources and opportunity, even if they might not call or email you back, but admittedly I have no journalistic training.
It’s funny. We don’t track or log any user data. Just against that practice in general, but we do track views per article. The gossipy ones, which you’re right, we do have, get 2-3x more views. Maybe that shouldn’t be surprising, but it surprised us. But we don’t run ads, so the traffic really doesn’t matter in the end, which is nice, cause most publications will chase the traffic for profit.
Did you reach out to the Bodhi Group for more information? https://bodhibakery.com/contact-us
No we did not. We noticed their Instagram was closed, Facebook closed, website went back to “coming soon” and physical location closed. We’ll reach out for a follow up. For sure. But if we reached out yesterday, it usually takes a few days for people to craft a response. Then the story gets posted late, and it’s no longer “news”. There are times when reaching out and waiting for response is more warranted than others. We didn’t feel this was one of them with all the pieces that were in place. News is research, and news is time sensitive. Some times you can’t have both.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think obtaining more information and quotes from sources, fact-checking that information, and reporting the truth is what makes it news or journalism. If you had to post more information next week about what happened, had quotes from the owners about the situation and it was accurate, detailed, and has more information than what's on currently on reddit, that's still news, and I think it's way more valuable to readers of a community. For example, I would love to know Cody's response to criticisms (to put it lightly) of the food, if the increased parking helped, if it will it be a coffee shop again, any response to the what's said about the Brooklyn location that are still online, why the pivot to Mexican at all, are there other plans for the space, what's going on the with the Eugene location of Bohdi. I would think speed would have nothing to do with it unless you had a deadline for a printer or regular edition.
How do feel about Bandit as “news” ?? The article got 6,000+ reads and he got adopted in less than 24 hours. We did reach out to the owner on that one, he did respond promptly, the story got posted fast, we did source that from social media, and covered the adoption fee. Adaptation to the changing media landscape. Adoption to Bandit. That’s news.
https://www.corvallisnow.com/p/not-all-bandits-are-bad
So you only get responses about 40% of the time. If they don’t respond then what? You post late anyways without the additional information, or you don’t post at all. Sometimes posting to inform is the lessor of two evils. Not all of the time though, admittedly. The writer of this article worked in photo journalism news for 18 years. That news is newswire sensitive. If your shooting a story with other photographers, you have to download your card, make a select from hundreds of images, photoshop, caption (aka write the story), and have the images FTP’d out globally… all with in a few minutes after shooting. Magazines then ran the story. Within the hour. Getting your story out 30 seconds to a minute later than the other journalist… you would lose most of the coverage and readership. The definition of “news” is timely information. Speed isn’t always key, especially on exclusives, but most of the time it is. Reddit, Instagram, Facebook are excellent sources of news. In fact you could start your own news website very easily and cheaply with the new platforms that exist now. Corvallis needs more sources of news. Medium, Substack, are great places to start. The media landscape is changing fast. A lot of newspapers in Oregon closed this year, ones that have been around for decades. Now we have a smaller cross section of news to get information from. This is bad for readers. We have to embrace the changes or die with the past. Change with the times, and continue to give people choices for the news.
Thank you for the response. I am glad that the cat got adopted. I disagree that Facebook, Reddit and Instagram, even Medium or Substack are inherently sources of "news". They are platforms where anyone can post anything at all. They can be sources of information, certainly, but I think information needs to be at the very least vetted or fact-checked to be considered or published as "news". Simply repeating or reporting things posted as fact because it appeared on social media is irresponsible, in my opinion, and equates to gossip, not "news". To be clear, I am not saying the above article did this, but you defined these platforms are news sources, which I think is entirely inaccurate. Back to my original point, I just think it's good journalistic practice to try to reach out to a source you are writing about if you have the resources and opportunity, even if they might not call or email you back, but admittedly I have no journalistic training.
It’s funny. We don’t track or log any user data. Just against that practice in general, but we do track views per article. The gossipy ones, which you’re right, we do have, get 2-3x more views. Maybe that shouldn’t be surprising, but it surprised us. But we don’t run ads, so the traffic really doesn’t matter in the end, which is nice, cause most publications will chase the traffic for profit.